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25 Apr 2017 05:20:23
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Midweek Premier League Preview

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25 Apr 2017 02:13:33
I believe that if we win 3 of our remaining 4 games we will make top 4 as we will end the season with 75 points.
We have Watford, Southampton away, West Ham and Borro, so if we don’t win 3 that is completely on us.
I will show why I believe this will be enough by looking at our rivals (Man City, Man Utd, Everton and Arsenal) remaining games and where that would be expected to put them.
Man City-
Man City still have Man Utd, Borro, Palace, Leicester, West Brom and Watford. I would not be surprised if they dropped points in 3 of these games. they have been very poor this season and I would expect them to drop points in 2 games from Man Utd, Palace and Leicester. Because they have been poor I would also expect them to drop points in 1 of their other games. This would leave Man City with, at most, 76 points and they currently have equal goal difference with us.
Man Utd-
Man Utd have City, Swansea, Arsenal, Tottenham, Southampton and Palace. I believe they would be likely to drop points in 2 games (at least) against City, Tottenham and Arsenal. I also believe they will drop points in at least 1 of their other remaining games as they will likely concentrate on the Europa league. This would leave them with, at most, 75 points, but their goal difference is currently less than ours.
Everton are currently 6 points behind us, having played the same number of games. As such, winning 3 of our remaining games would ensure we finish above them.
Arsenal still have to play Leicester, Tottenham, Man Utd, Southampton, Stoke, Sunderland and Everton. I would expect them to drop points in at least 2 of their games against Tottenham, Man Utd and Everton as well as 2 of their games against Leicester, Southampton, Stoke and Sunderland as they are falling apart. This would leave them with, at most, 70 points.
Obviously this is all conjecture but it does show why there is no need for everyone to freak out over the palace game as it is still very much possible that we make top 4.

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24 Apr 2017 21:01:13
So after the disappointment of the Palace result I have calmed down.

We have 4 games left to make top 4. That is the bottom line. It is time for fans, supporters, players, manager, coaches and the tea lady to pull together to see us over the line.

Whatever happens at the end of the season, we are still Liverpool no matter what.


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24 Apr 2017 21:02:37
On a brighter note after yesterdays shocker check out the U23s 2nd goal vs City tonight . Gomez crossfield ball to Wilson flicked on to TAA through ball to Woodburn for a tidy finish .

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24 Apr 2017 18:11:52
Time to talk about lack of leadership and poor mentality again.

For the second goal, Townsend hits a shocking corner, Firmino, Matip and Lucas are all easily in place to deal with it, and none of them do. Firmino is put off too easily, it goes through Matip, and Lucas has gotten out of the way by the time it gets to where he was. Not one of them was focused enough and willing to take responsibility for clearing that ball, they all switched off. I can live with one guy switching off, they're only human. But three? Come on lads, not good enough. It's particularly disappointing for me this time because I consider Firmino and Lucas to be among the better pros in the team. Milner wasn't a million miles away from potentially cutting it out either, and Can ignores Benteke running away from him.

And yet again, there is no reaction. Migs shakes his head in mild annoyance and that's it. No Simon, that won't do. You have every right to lose your head with them for that carry on, so lose it. Make it clear that isn't acceptable. We seem to have too many nice blokes in the team. Milner and Lucas captained the team yesterday. Nice blokes. Good pros in their own right. Not suitable for captaining a team of complacent, fair weather players, though. Henderson has a more aggressive streak in him, but he tends to exclusively direct it at the referee.

And let's not allow Sky Sports to convince us that goal is about zonal marking either. because it's not. First off, three players are in the path the ball takes with another one close by, so players are in the correct place to deal with it, and deal with it comfortably. They just didn't deal with it. Secondly, we zonal marked under Rafa, and as much as Andy Gray would go on and on about how evil zonal marking was if we conceded, we actually had one of the best records defending set pieces in the league. Why? Because Rafa had Carragher. Rafa had Hyypia. And Agger. And Reina. Those were fellas with a set of balls who would take responsibility on the pitch. Stick Carragher in place of anyone out of Firmino, Matip and Lucas on that corner and its cleared. Seriously, if we concede from a poor, flat, delivery that shouldn't beat the first man, then man marking won't change anything. They'll just switch off and lose their men and concede goals that way instead.

As I said towards the end of our poor run in Feb. We need players with the right mentality in the summer. Vocal players who can't stand losing and who can't stand players around them phoning it in, because there's plenty of ability in the side. It just needs to be on display every week, not when it suits.

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24 Apr 2017 18:04:01
Anyone else now sick of this false 9 rubbish? Firmino is so on and off it's a joke. Need a top quality number 9 next year.

{Ed001's Note - he never played as a false 9 against Palace ffs. Origi played as a proper 9.}

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24 Apr 2017 16:57:11
Klopp needs to revise his tactics, as his all out attack tactics has been found out. Yesterday we had a staggering 72 % possesion but we didn´t do anything useful with it, which reminds me of a manager with great 'character' - Death by football. And that is exactly what it was, a team that looked dreaded and confused. Insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. Yet we see Klopp persisting with the same tactics against opposition who organizes well and hit on the counter/ executes setpieces well.
WBA (thought we were lucky to get points), Leicester, Palace you name it. Why is it we don´t do the exact same? Organize well, stay deep and hit them on the counter.

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24 Apr 2017 16:33:35
as much as I hate it, the basic reason behind Liverpool FCs perineal struggle to stay near the top of the premiership is down to the owners. we cannot quite attract and buy the level of player we really require to break our now lengthening wait for another league title. We should be able to. If we payed the same wahges and had the same monetary input as Chelsea and man City then we would I believe attract players easily before either of those clubs who let's not forget struggled for many many years before they secured rich owners. neither Club was anywhere close to the stature of Liverpool and in every way except on the pitch are still nowhere close. i'm pretty tired of every year hearing the same old "We are building something" garbage. I dream of a strong team with hard dynamic midfielders. I dream of a striker who is a nightmare to play against. I dream of a goalkeeper who is confident and commanding. I dream of defenders who a rugged and defend first and foremost. I dream of deeper lying forwards who have the guile and craft of a Dalglish. But we never quite reach those levels. We do well lots of times in games only to then get seriously outfoxed by teams encamped in the lower half of the table. And as a fan you can almost predict what is going to happen especially in a home game. I think the Americans have done a lot for the club. But why build a 54000 capacity when we could easily draw 70000 plus to games? Its because they don't quite have the money to do that. I think Liverpool need a new kind of solidity and steel, the type only money and hard work combined can bring. Times have changed and in a post modern football world, whether we like it, agree with it or not, Liverpool deserves owners who can turn this club into a true reflection of what they are, one of the worlds biggest clubs. So Mr Henry. Sell up please and to those who make decisions, make sure we sell to owners who can change us not from doubters to believers, but from not quite there to winners.

{Ed001's Note - so it's not down to the owners then? Or do you think they should throw away millions just to please?

How you can criticise the size of the stadium I will never know. We could not have made it any larger than 60k, which is the size the next phase would take us to, due to the infrastructure in the area. The road and rail network needs to be improved for us to make a bigger stadium.

By the way, I do think the owners have made a lot of mistakes, but not throwing away money is not one of them. Ticket prices is one. A big one. Having to be publicly shamed and embarrassed into banning that filthy rag the S*n from Anfield was an even bigger one. The appointment of Ian Ayre to an executive role was also a very large mistake, though understandable as they wanted a local, a fan, who could identify with the club. Shame he was clueless in the role.}

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24 Apr 2017 11:57:17
Find it unbelievable how we've struggled with corners for so many years now. Surely the coaches have picked up on it? How does this happen week in week out, nobody takes charge to hoof it up field everyone just leaves it for someone else to deal with. Lovren has to be replaced imo, he's great sometimes but the other games he is so sloppy and messy, making the most basic of errors to gift chances to the opposition. Injury prone too.
Like ed001 said though, Palace did the same the other week against Chelsea so you have to give them some credit I suppose because it can't be a fluke. Onwards and upwards, hopefully city do us a favour then it'll be back in our hands. And if not Spurs and arsenal could still help us out lol.

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24 Apr 2017 12:01:16
do people really think that we should walk into the top 4 just because we don't have European football? that is ridiculous.

the disadvantages of being in Europe is that you play more games, have a higher risk of injuries/ fatigue and have your squad stretched. out of all the teams we are fighting we have struggled with these problems just as much.

Chelsea have one of the best squads and have suffered with very few injuries to key players. and also don't have European football this year

spurs went out of Europe very early at group stage i think and have a larger squad and as ed2 has said, have had much more time to build.

city and united are among the richest clubs in the world and it shows with their squads they basically have 2 quality starting 11s each. Liverpool cannot afford to do this.

people blame klopp for injuries. Sturridges injuries predate Klopps arrival, as do Lovrens. Mane's injury was clearly an isolated incident. Hendersons injury is an ongoing problem. Lallana was injured with England.

people want us to go out and but in January. Who was available? why panic? if we don't make top 4 then we will try again with players we wanted to actually buy.

we are without doubt one of the most frustrating teams to support. but people have given up on that it seems.

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24 Apr 2017 08:21:12
Awful morning after our dreadful loss just wanted to ask everyone a question when is the last time we have conceded a goal of real genuine quality where we have been torn apart? Struggling as nearly every goal we concede is due to an individual defensive mistake. Don't mind someone scoring a quality goal just got hold your hands up but it is so frustrating when we constantly give goals like were a charity organisation.

{Ed001's Note - good question and I can't think of the answer.}

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23 Apr 2017 20:00:20
Keita-----Hendo-----? --------Sandro

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23 Apr 2017 19:55:19
I came on here looking for a pick me up but reading some of the posts I'm embarrassed for some of you so called Liverpool supporters. Today was a massive F up but let's not try and blame klopp or the players can we not all try and get behind the team for the final push for top 4 it's all well and good saying we should have bought more or a certain player shouldn't be playing but in the end of the day we can't change anything till the end of the season so let's try be supportive for the last few games I also think Man U will drop between 5 and 7 points between now and the end of the season I for one will be cheering loudly for my team till the final whistle on the final day of the season YNWA.

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23 Apr 2017 19:48:49
Lets keep calm! we need to face facts at the moment we have not got a deep enough squad with quality. Maybe CL is beyond us this season i sincerely hope not. In Klopp we must definitely trust.

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23 Apr 2017 19:30:59
Wanna ask any of you a question. What was Clyne's position, mainly during the first half?

I thought he was one of the linesmen, just running up and down the field.

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23 Apr 2017 19:34:37
How we lost that game i don't know.
Under no pressure at all from Palace.
It just beggars belief.
Two Lovren mistakes (doing his best impression of Klavan) and we get punished for both mistakes.
Just imagine if we had a half decent defence!
We'd have walked the Premier League this season!

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23 Apr 2017 19:35:35
Bottles two finals, loses x amount of points from winning positions, had several poor transfer windows. rarely makes changes that influence a game. When it comes to the crunch, the gaffer is failing the fans.

{Ed001's Note - how did he bottle two finals?}

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23 Apr 2017 19:16:22
Thursday: Pray 4 City.

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23 Apr 2017 19:10:09
On way back from game. Still think 4 wins will be enough. Not getting a point, at the moment, seems a major blow. Need City to win, now, on Thursday and hope Utd don't take maximum points against Arsenal and Spurs. That's the boring stats out the way.

Little bit surprised at the love in towards Sturridge on this site earlier. I personally aren't really fussed if he's a lovely fellow off the pitch or not. As someone who contributes towards his huge wage I expect a return on the pitch, and for the last 3 seasons he's been a waste of space. With respect to Ed 001s comments, he clearly is more informed than me, but I don't buy in to all the physiology stuff. Current and past managers have all stated, or eluded to, that he needs to "toughen up" so to speak.

With regards to our centre forward today, I'm struggling to think if I've seen a more inept performance this season. He's gone backwards the last 2,years.

Anyway, rant over, will be there the next game and will keep the faith.

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23 apr 2017 19:04:23
i have never regarded clyne as a football. he is just a sprinter.

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